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apparent skinwalker encounter in san

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to start with i am a white female i was

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adopted seven years ago by a navajo

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family and we've always been close

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despite obvious cultural differences

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still i learned about skinwalkers first

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hand and they've since become an

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accepted part of my life

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i left utah at the end of 2012 and was

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surprised to see enthusiasm for

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skinwalker stories

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the first incident happened to my

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adopted uncle he was driving through the

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canyon area

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they live in blanding utah and san juan

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county a spot not quite notorious for

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skinwalkers but full of them nonetheless

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at night and got that familiar feeling

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it was dark outside but the moon

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illuminated the canyon and brush enough

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for him to see out of his side vision

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that something was running across the

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desert night

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he was in his 40s at the time and a

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police officer so a full-grown man

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he started singing and praying in navajo

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and kept his eyes on the road in front

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of him

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but he was driving at least 55 miles per

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hour

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so the shape running through the desert

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was keeping pace with him despite his

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high speed

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he said that it looked vaguely human

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shape but paler than any human he'd ever

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seen

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still he didn't look directly at it and

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despite his singing he was getting more

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and more scared

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one thing my navajo family always taught

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me was that these creatures feed on your

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fear

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this one certainly seemed to my uncle

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was shaking and sweating when the

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running thing picked up speed

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outpacing his truck and then when it was

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maybe 30 yards ahead of him

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it made a sharp right and began to run

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toward the road he knew it was going to

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directly intersect him and he made up

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his mind to put his foot on the gas

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because being break out in the middle of

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that road in the dark alone was a death

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sentence

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so it got closer he sped up and just as

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the two crossed paths

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it jumped onto the road so he saw it for

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the first time men

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he described it as a skinny man in jeans

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and a plaid shirt typical reservoir with

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a long face and big yellow eyes that

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looked like cat eyes

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his arms were thrown up over his head

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and his hands were kind of flying out

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behind it

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the worst part was that his mouth was

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open and seemed to be disconnected from

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its jaw

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his chin was just flapping around about

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a foot below its nose

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it left them for the road and then just

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as quickly jumped out of the way of his

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truck

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and he didn't see it again he prayed the

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whole way home and they had a ceremony

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shortly after that

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another encounter happened to my adopted

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brother who is one of the most

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level-headed and unshakable men i've

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ever met

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he was 30 when this happened he was at

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their dad's house

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partaking in one of these ceremonies

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which happens in the hogan

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the rule is that you never leave the

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hogan alone because the magic and energy

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that you make during those ceremonies

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is kind of like a supernatural beacon

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and you never know what kind of

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creatures you're attracting

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still my brother was a pretty rational

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guy and wasn't afraid of the dark

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he'd been in hogan for hours chanting

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and praying and all that good stuff and

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he needed a smoke break and to take a

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leak

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so against the general rule he edged out

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of the round house and out into the

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night

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there was nothing around except 15 or 20

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parked cars all close to the ceremony

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it was a large gathering so he did his

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business with no incident and lit up a

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cigarette

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he was standing there staring off into

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space when he got that feeling of being

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watched to shake it off he walked away

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from the hogan about 20 feet and scanned

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everything was quiet except the drums

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coming from the hogan and the singing

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just as he was about to shrug off his

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weird feeling and chuck a cigarette butt

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he saw it under one of the vehicles a

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dark shape and two shining eyes

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the eyes were like animal eyes they

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didn't glow on their own but they had

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reflective light in them and they

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glinted right at him

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they were yellow the creature didn't

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have the shape of any animal he

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recognized though

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he explained it to me that it was shaped

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like gollum really skinny with a round

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human head

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he was not scared of something that

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would make me bleep my pants instantly

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he walked toward the vehicle and bent

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down to get a closer look

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dust scrabbled around and he could hear

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a skittering noise

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one bony arm shoved some gravel his way

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in the next thing he knew

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the creature was gone and the vehicle

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was empty but then he smelled this

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disgusting puke-worthy stench

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and he got scared then because that's

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one of the worst things in the navajo

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culture

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bad smells are treated very seriously

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when they're assumed to be supernatural

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so he strained back up and then

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urialized the source of the smell

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a shadow fell over him covering him from

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behind he is around six

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foot two so this thing he said he

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estimated at seven and a half feet

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at least he was shivering and didn't

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move as it approached him from behind

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until it was standing inches away he

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could feel it smell it

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see his shadow and then the worst thing

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he felt to breathe on his neck

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eric said that it sounded like a horse

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or cow when it snorts and its breath was

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warm when he looked at his feet he saw

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his own shoes

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and behind his right foot a big hoof so

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he closed his eyes and started to sing

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and right at that moment his dad and

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uncle got a terrible feeling from inside

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the hogan

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they bolted up and exited calling his

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name they found him shivering outside

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too terrified to talk and too terrified

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to stop singing in navajo

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it took him months before he shared this

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with us and he did so expecting us to

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laugh or call him crazy

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but i completely believe his story our

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creepy incident possible skinwalker near

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kisichi national forest louisiana

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my friend mack likes to go solitary

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camping on occasion to be one with

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nature and the things that go along with

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he is also an avid gun collector and

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enthusiast

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he heritages atacapa's native ancestry i

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don't remember exactly when he said this

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took place

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but it was few years back and he decided

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to go camping on a whim

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he packed his gear a hunting rifle and

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.45 sidearm specifically and headed out

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into the country onto a vast swatch of

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property owned by a friend of his

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he had full permission to be there this

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happened close to the kisichi national

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forest in south central louisiana

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i won't be any more specific other than

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that safe to say it's many square miles

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of forest and wilderness

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he liked to hike in pretty deep and camp

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at a specific spot he found a few trips

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prior so he made his way and then set up

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camp in his usual small clearing for the

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night

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skipping ahead a few hours it was now

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late afternoon when he heard leaves

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crunching and twigs being stepped on

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he assumed it was an animal at first and

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got up from cooking something on the

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fire to try to get a look

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he gazed in the direction of the noise

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and saw a man approaching through the

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trees a good many yards away

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he has described his etiquette for

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dealing with other people in very remote

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places

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as always being cautious as more often

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than not people he comes across

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are armed like him he tries to stay as

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friendly as possible

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but still keeps his guard up looking for

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any ulterior motives as you never can

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tell what some folks are up to out in

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the middle of nowhere

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he'll make chitchat with them find out

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generally what they're up to if he can

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and occasionally share a meal etc he's

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never really met anyone nefarious as of

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yet other than the situation and maybe

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one other

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but that's a whole other ordeal so one

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thing that sets off small alarm bells

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for him as he knows he's the only one

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with permission to be on this property

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and secondly this guy

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is not dressed for the location at all

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he said the guy was wearing a white

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t-shirt

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short blue jogging shorts and white

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socks and sneakers

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mind you mac is miles out in the middle

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of the woods away from any paths

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roadways houses or anything really

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nobody is going to casually stroll into

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his current location dressed like that

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unless they are lost or confused etc

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it was early fall but not quite cool

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very normal for louisiana so there's a

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ton of mosquitoes

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ticks and other insects you're not going

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to have most of your skin exposed if you

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can help it deep in the woods

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i know that all too well from personal

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experience myself

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so mac assumes something might be up and

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calls out hey there do you need help or

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something

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pretty loud definitely loud enough to be

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heard

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the guy keeps walking forward staring

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directly at him

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mack is starting to get unnerved and as

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i said i know this guy well

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and he's cool as cucumber in a tense

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situation getting more uneasy as the guy

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is closing the distance

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he gets to his feet and loudly declares

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hey man can i help you with something or

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what

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the guy is 15 to 20 feet away from mack

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now standing at the edge of the clearing

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and the forest

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the guy looking back dead in the eye

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speaks and clearly says

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help me max said he was already starting

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to actually get worried at this point

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because he said the way the guy said

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this was as if something that didn't

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know exactly how to talk was saying

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help me or at least that's what he first

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thought it did not sound right

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the guy still unmoving says help me

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again

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slightly more emphatic but really just

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slightly louder

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max said this is when he picked up on

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what was truly wrong about this

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he said the timbre of the voice was more

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female and actually sounded like a

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recording being played back

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and that the guy's lip and mouth

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movements weren't matching up with the

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phrase

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it's like he was just opening his mouth

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emitting the phrase

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and closing it again back asked what do

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you need help with

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not daring to back up or move whatsoever

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the guy still standing motionless as

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well still looking directly at him said

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help me again and repeated the phrase

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another three times slowly

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but not louder in volume mack now

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totally unsure of what the hell is going

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on interrupts the guy by barking alright

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you need to bleep and go now unless you

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actually need my help

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do you need my help or not he continued

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loud and firm in tone

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the guy didn't miss a beat hence started

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up with the help me again

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and made as if to take another step in

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max direction

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mack told me that he then did the only

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thing that made sense in the moment and

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drew his 45 semi-auto pistol

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and pointed it at the guy telling him

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again you need to bleep and go

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i don't care what you want the guy

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starts to get more animated and agitated

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actually starting to say the phrase

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louder now over and over

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but not stepping closer or backing away

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mack did what he thought was right given

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his current predicament

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assuming he was dealing with an unstable

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or potentially dangerous individual

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and discharged around into the ground in

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front of the guy

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now this is where it gets fully back

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crap crazy as the guy stops uttering the

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phrase

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goes silent and stilker for sure but

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mack gave no indication of falsehood and

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told me this multiple times

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each time and dead serious demeanor yet

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max said the guy backflipped away

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effortlessly as if pulled back by an

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unseen tension coil

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he described it as completely humanly

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unnatural and totally out of place

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the guy had just appeared and repeated

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the same phrase over and over

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eventually becoming almost frantic

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before mack shot at the ground before

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him causing hemorrha to flee

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max said he stood there focused on the

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forest where the guy just flipped into

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and saw and heard no further movement

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it was like the guy had never even been

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there he stayed like this as the sun

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began to set

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and the normal night noises crept in as

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i mentioned before mac is a pretty

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unshakable fellow

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and actually stayed in the area for the

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night and next night before returning

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with no further incident

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when he had told me and some other

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friends about this of course we asked

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many questions

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we asked him to elaborate on the guy's

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speech sounds

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he said the more he thought about it

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after the incident the more sure he was

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that it was definitely a female's voice

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coming from the guy

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it was like he or it had heard someone

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say this and mimicked it like a parrot

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or other talking bird would

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almost like a lure he doesn't know what

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it wanted

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hear it mike qualifies and it didn't

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give any indication to follow or utter

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anything else

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he had reacted immediately to the

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gunshot and you know what followed there

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he has been back to the property since

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with no other strange occurrences

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the only other minute detailed that i

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can think of is he did remember hearing

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during the early morning of the first

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night what sounded like a gun shot off

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in the distance and it did sound eerily

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similar to his 45

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he thought he may have heard it again on

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the hike back out there are people that

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hunt in the area of course

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and it could have just been that he

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couldn't be sure

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since this incident and one other he had

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in a complete different location

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he did some online research of the whole

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kissache area and found many legends

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stories

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and supposed encounters dealing with

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skinwalkers and other unnerving bits of

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native american folklore in the area

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not to mention mimics and other similar

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supposed creatures

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a lot of his encounter lines up with

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these tales but there's nothing tangible

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to prove it of course

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but even as a skeptic it does make me

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wonder about strange things in the

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remote and

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untouched areas of our world that can't

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tn

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